Talking to a Client in the Wrong Location Makes This Counselor a Criminal

Elizabeth Brokamp is a professional counselor who just wants to help people at a time when many Americans need it more than ever. But if the Virginia resident tries to talk with clients just miles away in D.C., she will cited and fined for making a Zoom call. In today’s show, we talk about what she’s doing to fight back, and why her case is a crucial part of the fight to protect free speech.

Host: Melanie Hildreth
Guests: IJ Senior Attorneys Bob McNamara and Robert Johnson

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